It was nearly 20 years ago when the mysterious JonBent Ramsey murder case shocked, and mortified people around the world. Kolar scoured through lab and police reports, witness statements and other information when he took over the case. A federal court ruled that it was unlikely that Patsy wrote the note and cited six certified handwriting experts. Olivas high school friend, Michael Vail claimed that Oliva had call him on the phone to confess that he had hurt a little girl. According to The Daily Camera, the McReynolds' middle daughter, 9-years-old at the time, was abducted on December 26, 1974, and witnessed the sexual molestation of her friend. They know someone outside the family has murdered their daughter, but they know no one will believe they're all innocent, so in order to protect Burke and themselves they call the police and report the kidnapping in the hopes that if they play along, the real killer will be caught eventually. (Bill McReynolds), He visited adult book stores and admitted to having a long-withstanding admiration for porn. For years, JonBent's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey were blamed for possibly having some involvement in their daughters murder. He takes pictures of her dying and possibly records it. Ramsey Home Walkthrough - 3D Computer Model. Karr had reached out to University of Colorado Boulder professor, Michael Tracey through email. They went to a war: they kept lying, twisting facts, throwing friends into the fire, and obstructing justice for decades now. Karrs confession made international headlines but he was later dismissed as a pedophile who was after fame. The note read that if the Ramseys had contacted the police, or told anyone of JonBents disappearance, she would be murdered. When did that happen? Why murder her? I was in my 20s when she was murdered and am strongly IDI. This would explain why a neighbor thought they saw John Andrew approach the house the evening of the murder. Janet McReynolds said in the same interview that her 1970s play sounded "quaint" in light of the Ramsey murder and only made her family more empathetic to the Ramseys' loss. Its also believed that because of the initial belief that the Ramseys had something to do with JonBents murder, other leads were neglected by authorities. Gosage took the good news back to the house, but Janet McReynolds told him, Stay out of our lives. The embarrassed cops got into their cars, and the official convoy slunk back down the mountain. Maybe that family member enlists a friend to do it instead so that police wouldn't quickly make the connection and unbeknonst to them, that friend is a creep, so things go horribly wrong and turn from kidnapping to murder. Can I ask you Ivy, did you live through the whole JonBenet murder saga as an adult while it was unfolding? Jon Benet had bits of the Ramsey's own sparkly stairway Christmas garland in her hair. It was later revealed that the note was written on stationery found in the familys home. Can I ask you Ivy, did you live through the whole JonBenet murder saga as an adult while it was unfolding? To this day, questions around the note still arise. Santa Claus, A.K.A Bill McReynolds recruited a younger male to kill JonBenet and film it or take pictures for him. For other inquiries, Contact Us. But they also know that he couldn't have written the note and they know that neither one of them wrote it or did anything wrong because they were together the entire time. While the Ramsey's were at the party, the killer staged the kidnapping, he wrote the ransom note so he could throw off the investigation as long as possible.. The woman said that on Christmas Eve day in 1996, JonBent said Santa had told her he was going to make a secret visit to her after Christmas. McReynolds is questioned and ruled out, he didn't commit the actual killing so his DNA is not a match. And Burke. And apparently it starts out nice and then it gets up into this you left Santa Claus and, you know, went to all those fancy things and you came back to Santa Claus. He carried it to the hospital as a lucky charm during the surgery. Why not take JBR from the home and to a secluded place where they could do a lot more than just take a few pictures. We also should have separated John and Patsy and gotten full statements from them that day. I'm wondering if those fragments could be the same glitter that Crying Santa Bill wanted mixed with his ashes upon his death. Which means you constructed this primarily with your own imagination. The 2 1/2-page letter demanded that John withdraw $118,000 and wait for further instructions. This seems really strange and coincidental. 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Helgoth was tied to a supposed property dispute with the Ramsey family, which many theorize could have been a motive for possibly kidnapping JonBent. Following the success of shows recounting murder cases and trials like, The People v. O.J Simpson, and Making A Murderer, both CBS and Lifetime are bringing JonBent's story to TV this year. They thought his standing up to DeMuth proved that the elderly man was not weak and frail after all, just as John Ramsey had said. And another creepy coincidence that According to the Daily Camera, the woman provided authorities with a list of "specific names of individuals who [were] witnesses in the killing of JonBent as well as ongoing sexual and physical [abusers] of other children.". A. James Kolar, who led the case investigation for the Boulder DAs office for nine months, believes its unlikely the girl was killed by an intruder. Interview with Jill McReynolds: The Man Behind the Beard In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. Letting them go was a big mistake, as they soon layered up and did not get to formally interview them again until May of 1997, five months after their daughter was murdered., The case was then passed to the DAs office in 2002 after the Ramseys said they had no confidence in the police.. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Gosage was met by an irate Jesse McReynolds, who said he was sick of you guys trying to frame my dad. Bill McReynolds, distraught, weeping, and saying, I didnt do anything, refused to come to the door. I am trying to find another source for this. And while living in Nederland, near Boulder, he had some other scrapes with the law. The 26-year-old committed suicide two days after a 1997 press conference where the Boulder DA announced that they were looking at a new suspect. Also, using the words of one of the handwriting experts, it's extremely unlikely for a random killer to have a handwriting so uniquely similar to Patsy's. However, John and Patsy Ramsey referred to him as a suspect in their book The Death of Innocence, and Janet stated that her husband was deeply affected by the suspicion: "He was scarred. This one is definitely one of the more outlandish theories of the bunch, so you should take it with a grain of salt: At least one source reports that it's possible JonBent was attacked by some sort of wild animal, like an owl or a bear. When I'm not writing, reading, or lost in the vortex that is the Internet, I can usually be found stuffing my face with food and obsessing over the nearest dog. By itself, it's not a crime. Anderson is entering his eighth season in the Truck Series. Other suspects included neighbor Bill McReynolds, a local Santa Claus who visited the Ramseys a few days before the girls death. I've asked my wife to mix the star dust JonBent gave me with my ashes. On what grounds did Steve Thomas and the BPD dismiss them? Other suspects included neighbor Bill McReynolds, a local Santa Claus who visited the Ramseys a few days before the girls death. I just wanted to add something that borders on ridiculous and that's probably being generous. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. JonBenet is alone when the killer emerges from his hiding place and strikes her with a heavy object (likely the flashlight) He takes her down to the basement where he ducktapes her mouth, sexually assaults her and strangles her with the garrote, snuff movie style. It's not easy to unpack all of that garbage and approach the case with fresh eyes. An ex-con knows whats going on in an interrogation room with two detectives, and Jesse McReynolds knew he looked good to Gosage and me as a suspect in the Ramsey case. Thats who interests me a little more than his father. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. The victim in the story later dies in a hospital. Particularly older people who were around in the mid nineties. What about chronic sexual abuse of JonBenet? (BPD Reports #1-1874, #26-144, #1-41, #1-162, #1-204, #1-304, #1-2622, #5-297, #5-371, #5-2202) Could that Secret Santa have been the killer and someone JonBent knew? acting incredibly suspiciously around the time of the murder, I wonder what it would be like to crack a human skull, You will receive a special gift after Christmas, a fictionalized account of the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana, it's also not the first time that a murder has been blamed on an owl, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. The only play the public has been made aware of was Hey Rube which was based on the true story of Sylvia Likens, a young girl who was held captive in an Indiana basement in 1965. (Carnes 2003:37). Hired by Marilyn Haus to play Santa at the mall. In a very special episode of Listen Carefully, Sam and Lindsey welcome their first guest, Jill McReynolds, daughter of suspect Bill McReynolds. The South Carolina native got engaged over the weekend to Kendall McReynolds, daughter of two-time Daytona 500 winning-crew chief and NASCAR on FOX analyst Larry McReynolds. 2023 BDG Media, Inc. All rights reserved. The Ramsey familys private investigator, Ollie Gray blasted the Boulder Police Department for not considering Oliva a credible suspect. That night Thomas met with Bill and Janet and she conirmed Bill's statement that he was at home at the time of the murder. McReynolds and her husband, a journalism professor at the University of Colorado at the time of JonBent's murder, were at the Ramsey home on December 23, 1996, playing Mr. and Mrs. Claus for the kids. Many sleuths believe that Helgoth had heard he was a suspect in the case, with a popular theory believing that it was his footprint at the crime scene. DNA has since cleared Helgoth of any involvement. The play, Hey Rube, was about the 1965 torture and murder of Sylvia Likens in Indiana. You are putting a lot of stock in what may be a throw away line by a 6 year old. Karrs confession made international headlines but he was later dismissed as a pedophile who was after fame. Over the years, we gained knowledge of how the case was mishandled and the false stories that were leaked to the public etc so we changed our minds. Do you know, u/samarkandy? Another was Michael Helgoth, an electrician who worked at a nearby auto salvage yard. The McReynolds vehemently denied any involvement in JonBent's murder and Janet stated that the couple felt "sensitive to the horror" due to what had happened to their own child. I have read it was either an independent producer working on "spec" or McReynolds himself that hired the film crew. (Thomas), DeMuth was on the trail of Bill McReynolds, even using undercover cops to tail him. Copyright 2023 NASCAR Digital Media, LLC. A book by Kate Millett, The Basement, details the murder. 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